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threesixty 1:04 Mon Oct 16
Valencia, ZaZa.. talk to me
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https://www.theguardian.com/football/valencia
"Valencia continued their excellent start to the La Liga season by beating Real Betis 6-3 away, rising to second in the table. Valencia risked throwing away the win when they let in three goals in five minutes but they seized all the points with an 88th-minute strike from their top scorer, Simone Zaza, who claimed his seventh goal of the campaign."
7 in 8!
Is this another Mascherano thing?
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Replies - In Chronological Order ( Show Newest Messages First)
Rossal
1:06 Mon Oct 16
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He can score 30 this season doesnt change the fact that every time he played for us he was utter dogshit and looked like he didnt want to be there
Whether or not that was down to the staff is the big question
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On The Ball
1:09 Mon Oct 16
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More likely that he just wasn't suited to English football. It happens.
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Far Cough
1:10 Mon Oct 16
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Still remember that shot on goal that went out for a throw in
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ludo21
1:12 Mon Oct 16
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He had ample opportunity and was shit!
No one else to blame.
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Darby_
1:15 Mon Oct 16
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Maybe Valencia have a decent manager.
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Russ of the BML
1:17 Mon Oct 16
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Players play better for some clubs than others regardless of what talent they have. He's probably more settled and just feels better about himself. But you have to judge on what he did for us not what he is doing for them. And what he did for us was comparable to a lump of badger shit.
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Trevor B
1:19 Mon Oct 16
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His father recently blamed his poor form for us on Zaza still thinking about his penalty miss as the Euros, the weather and the team formation.
I'm not sure what formation you have to play to persuade a player to put in a decent shift and occasionally get a shot on target, but apparently not any of the ones we put him in.....
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El Scorchio
1:21 Mon Oct 16
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He was shit, but also clearly came into a toxic situation at West Ham with a team in disarray and in no way set up for a new signing to flourish. Not exactly a recipe for success.
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threesixty
1:31 Mon Oct 16
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Strangest player of all time for me.
In a west ham shirt I wondered if he had actually played professional football before? It was bizarre.
When he'd played for Juventus and now Valencia he actually looked like a proper professional striker.
I have no idea what happened. Just so strange.
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El Scorchio
1:33 Mon Oct 16
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It's fucking ridiculous that the only goal he scored at the LS was against us for Juventus.
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Alex V
1:42 Mon Oct 16
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Form and ability are different things.
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Grumpster
1:47 Mon Oct 16
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Very good player in leagues that aren't 100 miles an hour throughout,.
Not suited to English football and was awful for us, though some of the football we played at the beginning of last season might have made any fucker struggle up front.
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Northern Sold
1:47 Mon Oct 16
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Must be nice for him to play in something resembling a football stadium...
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Jim79
1:53 Mon Oct 16
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Not just us this happens to, remember Diego Forlan. Shite here and mustard in Spain.
Christ some players don't even have to change leagues to have completely polar opposite performances.
Torres for Liverpool was great and became a totally different players once driving south down the M1.
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zico
2:01 Mon Oct 16
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Jim79 1:53 Mon Oct 16
Torres was bizarre. Looked a world beater at Liverpool but just fell apart. Falcao as well just didn't adapt to English football but has been knocking them in again on the continent.
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Far Cough
2:02 Mon Oct 16
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Shevshenko , never pulled up many trees
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On The Ball
2:05 Mon Oct 16
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Falcao
Shevchenko
Happens all over. Loads more examples.
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Nagel
2:06 Mon Oct 16
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Freddi Kanouté was similar to Forlan. Averaged about 10 goals a season in 5 years for us and Spurs and then more than double that at Sevilla.
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Dan M
2:06 Mon Oct 16
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His Dad blamed the weather? I'm pretty sure that it was sweltering in the stadium for pretty much every game through to October.
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dazz
2:17 Mon Oct 16
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Zaza will forever know he could'nt cut in the EPL.
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